I've only used them in lakes. There's Navajo and Vallecito and Lemon and Durango Lake (I guess..never been there) local and maybe on the Los Pinos when its lower..that flows right across the street from where I live. We have land on the river front 10 miles downstream so that'd be a cool run.

Down the road from Sutcliffe..he only bottles 20-100 bottles a year but maaan is it good. Best Shiraz I've ever tasted. He'll get bigger in a few years hopefully.